Meet our leadership team
CELESTE CAROLIN (she/her)
Executive Director | firstname.lastname@example.org
Celeste Carolin comes from a business and leadership background with a wide range of senior business roles. She attended Harvard Extension School from 2009 to 2013 studying for a Master’s in Business and is currently working on a Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy from NCU working with diverse clients at Northwest Relationship.
As a queer (lesbian) cisgender woman, Celeste has worked with LGBTQ youth and non-profits for the past 10 years. She served on the Mama Dragons Leadership team in 2016, Mama Dragons Board of Directors from 2016 to 2018. Celeste has a knack for start-ups, leadership, and launching organizations needing growth.
Celeste lives just outside Seattle in Bremerton, WA with her lovely partner Jamie, extended family, and grand kiddos, and their pup Jackson Blue. You can find Celeste in her free moments exploring the outdoor world around her.
Both Celeste and her partner come from nonaccepting religious roots, LDS and Evangelical Christianity. This fuels Celeste's passion for understanding and serving the intersectionality of faith and parenting LGBTQ children.
Wendy VonSosen (she/her)
Director of Marketing and Design | email@example.com
Wendy joined Mama Dragons in 2016 just after her daughter came out. Since then she has served as President, Marketing Director, Social Media Lead and is once again leading the marketing and design of Mama Dragons.
With a background in photography and UX/UI Design, Wendy believes in the art of storytelling to bridge gaps and increase empathy. "The more we listen to one another, the better we're able to understand the vast and varied life experiences that make us the fascinating and complex humans we are."
Wendy and her husband have called the San Francisco bay area home for over 20 years. Their four kids are scattered among California, Utah, and Arizona. When she's not on her computer, Wendy loves exploring the hills with her two dogs and scheming up her next home renovation project.
CAMEO SHERMAN (she/her)
Director of Grants | firstname.lastname@example.org
Cameo Sherman became Mama Dragons Director of Grants in May 2022. She provides strategic, operational support, and business development for Mama Dragons related to their grant development.
Cameo originally joined Mama Dragons in December 2018. She quickly got engaged in the various volunteer opportunities and programs Mama Dragons offers, such as Paper Hugs, Wrapped in Hugs, QPR Suicide Prevention, and Regional Groups. Cameo's volunteer experience in these programs provides her with valuable insight into the inner workings of the Mama Dragons Programs while also understanding the organization as a whole.
Cameo lives in Maryland with her husband, five children, and two cats. She used to be a birth doula but is not currently practicing, although she holds the birth experiences and parents she worked with close to her heart. After leaving her traditional Christian religion in 2018, she came out as bisexual and has become a vocal advocate for the LGBTQ community. Cameo strongly believes in the power of mothers, and all parents, to change the lives of LGBTQ people, one home at a time.
ANNE ELIASON (she/her)
Director of PR | email@example.com
Anne has been a member of Mama Dragons since 2019. A storyteller at heart, Anne worked as the author of a popular professional blog, publishing daily for years, and has written multiple articles for newspapers and magazines along with a handful of short stories. As the Mama Dragons PR Director, Anne loves sharing the story of Mama Dragons and the ways the organization changes lives. She loves teaching and presenting, but she is especially passionate about empowering other members of Mama Dragons to tell their own stories.
Anne loves traveling with her family and performing with a local community theater. She and her husband live in Salt Lake City, UT with their four children.
JENNIFER KUPPER (she/her)
Diversity and Intersectionality Interim Chair | firstname.lastname@example.org
Jennifer joined Mama Dragons in the spring of 2021, nine months after her young adult expressed that they were non-binary. As interim chair, Diversity and Intersectionality, she facilitates in creating a welcoming and inclusive environment to all mama-identifying humans seeking to love and support their children from within the communities in which they live, as without a doubt, the multiplicity of our intersections (race, gender, sexuality, religion, ability, etc) influences the road we travel!
Jennifer had a 25-year career with The Walt Disney Company. She was a writer and speaker for the company and as a leader in Corporate Social Responsibility, she managed long-term relationships with local- and national youth development, philanthropic, and volunteer organizations and supported government and non-profit agencies to further their youth initiatives. She held many committee and non-profit board leadership positions during her tenure.
Grateful for her own life experiences, Jennifer focuses her volunteer efforts supporting the queer community primarily with the Zebra Coalition, an LBGTQ+ youth drop-in center. In 2019, Zebra named Jennifer Volunteer of the Year. Jennifer participates on the onePULSE Foundation Legacy Scholarship Committee, annually reviewing and selecting 49 scholarships in the names of those lost in the Pulse Nightclub tragedy.
Jennifer lives in Orlando and her enby is in grad school in Vermont. Thankfully, her family dog also enjoys the outdoors, entertaining and quiet time.
Jennifer Wennergren (she/her)
Director of Events and Lift Up Programs | email@example.com
Jennifer Wennergren is currently serving as the Mama Dragons Director of Events and Lift Up Programs. She oversees and coordinates participation in events that bring support, education, and engagement to communities everywhere. She also manages our Lift Up Programs which includes Paper Hugs, Wrapped in Hugs, and Embracelet.
Jennifer comes to Mama Dragons with a background in non-profit organizational leadership. She was most recently Executive Director of an educational non-profit organization serving families in the Weber and Davis County, Utah areas. She has also gained experience serving as chairman of the board as well as other board and leadership positions in several other non-profit organizations.
Jennifer has 3 amazing adult children (two who identify as LGBTQ+) and a new grandbaby. She lives in Utah with her husband, emotionally dependent dog, loving cat, and nine chickens. In her spare time she likes to make blankets for the Wrapped in Hugs program, garden, and spend time outdoors.
Pam Gulka (she/her)
Director of Facebook Main Group | firstname.lastname@example.org
Pam Gulka joined Mama Dragons in 2018 and has served in several volunteer roles within the
organization. In May of 2022, she became the Director of the Facebook Main Group. She works with a dedicated team to cultivate a welcoming online community where moms of LGBTQ+ children can
receive support, encouragement, and education.
Pam is currently finishing a bachelor’s degree in human services, with an aim to provide front-line
support to those in crisis. Prior to this, she worked as an educational assistant, supporting the needs of children and youth with diverse learning and behaviour needs. Pam believes in advocating for those in need of help, amplifying the voices of those who are marginalized, and empowering those around her to create change. When her oldest child came out, Pam realized that her town was not a safe and supportive space for those in the LGBTQ+ community. Since that time, she has actively sought ways to drive change and create a more inclusive environment.
Pam and her husband live in a southern Alberta community with three of their four children and an
assortment of aging pets. In her downtime, Pam enjoys visiting her oldest daughter at university,
exploring trails in the mountains, and camping with her family.
Gretchen Rath (she/her)
Director of Regional Groups | email@example.com
After a move to Michigan from Florida in 2017, Gretchen Rath was looking for a safe space in her new community and found Mama Dragons through a magazine article. Soon after joining, she took on the role of Coordinator for the Michigan regional group. In 2020 she became the Regional Group Team Lead and now serves as Director for that team. She also proposed the concept of utilizing e-commerce as a scalable solution to provide income for Mama Dragons through merchandise sales. She managed the Mama Dragons online store until 2022.
After receiving a bachelor's degree in Interior Design from the University of Missouri - Columbia, Gretchen's career has taken a winding path, providing experience in a number of industries. Some of those industries include marketing and social media, education, children's ministry, and custom apparel. She is currently an account manager, providing onboarding and training for InkSoft, an e-commerce platform targeting the printed apparel industry.
Gretchen now lives in St. Louis, Missouri, where she grew up. She has two adult children that both identify on the LGBTQ spectrum as well as two feline children. She volunteers as an AV tech at The Gathering, an open and affirming Methodist church in the St. Louis area and is a self-taught graphic designer and photographer, using those skills for business and pleasure whenever possible.
KAYE KATSEANES (she/her)
Secretary | firstname.lastname@example.org
Kaye Katseanes serves as the Secretary for Mama Dragons.
Kaye is a native Idahoan - she graduated as a Maniac from Orofino High School, then went on to study at Idaho State University, where she met her husband. After they married, Kaye spent years raising three children and working alongside her husband running Triple K Farms. Kaye is an active member of her community, liberally giving her time and talents in a number of ways. She has recently sewn over 1000 masks and donated them all over Idaho. She spent a winter making hats and lap quilts so LGBTQ kids in Utah's shelters wouldn't feel winter's cold. She's famous for showing up on your doorstep with homemade treats.
Kaye has been active with Mama Dragons since 2015. She has served in various church capacities, trying to educate along the way, cares for numerous people in her neighborhood, and is deeply committed to ensuring all kids feel safe and loved. Kaye has also worked with the youth at Affirmation for the past 4 years.
Kaye's son, who is gay, lives in California and recently completed his first year of law school. Kaye loves all of her children fiercely and is an amazing example of love, kindness, and acceptance. Every day, she gracefully navigates the space between being a member of a conservative Christian religion and loving, accepting, and supporting a gay child.
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
AMY BOSTWICK (she/her)
Amy Bostwick heads our Mama Dragons Board, bringing leadership successes from marketing & retail roles. Currently, a marketing consultant with The NPD Group, Amy's experience spans retail store operations, retail customer experience & loyalty, and wholesale/retail sales. In a fast-changing world, she works with retail executives to understand and use analytics and insights, connecting the dots on the "who, what, where, when, and why" of customer behavior.
As an LGBTQ ally, Amy has worked for over 10 years with non-profits focused on ending homelessness and building youth-mentoring programs. She fosters finding solutions to problems by asking questions and listening to the answers – even the really tough ones. A Mama Dragon at heart, she is drawn to amplify and fiercely defend the voices of the under-served and the under-represented!
Amy and her oil-painter artist, Karl Bostwick, make Winston Salem, NC their empty-nested home. When they're not entertaining and hosting a game night, they enjoy camping off-grid and hiking to new vistas.
SANDEE DUNCAN (she/her)
SanDee joined Mama Dragons as Treasurer in August 2019 and joined the board in October 2019. She is responsible for all accounting and tax needs for Mama Dragons.
SanDee has been a licensed CPA in the state of Utah since 2012. She has worked in the small business manufacturing industry for over 17 years and is currently the president of an industrial coating company. She has enjoyed the opportunity to learn about the nonprofit sector through her work with Mama Dragons.
SanDee is the mother of four children, one whom is non-binary. Her love for her children and the desire to make the world a better, more inclusive place fuels her passion for the work that Mama Dragons does. She and her family live in a suburb south of Salt Lake City, Utah. She enjoys photography, painting and being in the mountains.
LISA DAME (she/her)
Lisa Evans Dame has served on the Mama Dragons Board since 2017 and has been a member of the group since 2014. She has performed many roles with the organization including regional group leader for the Wasatch Front Group, which is her current job.
Lisa has a background in education with a degree from Brigham Young University in Elementary and Special Education. She taught in the public schools for five years before staying home with her children and transitioning to private tutoring. She has been involved with several non-profit organizations as a fund raiser, community support and worker bee. She has volunteered her time with The Road Home, Youth Futures, Circles, and Encircle which are all organizations in the Salt Lake City area.
She is currently pursuing a master’s degree in clinical mental health counseling.
She lives in Sandy, Utah with her husband David at the base of the Wasatch Mountains. Their five children and their significant others all live in the area and are available for frequent family dinners and activities. They have two beautiful grandchildren and several grand pets who they babysit on occasion. Lisa enjoys the outdoors through hiking, walking, and playing tennis and pickleball.
Sara Urkuhart (she/her)
Sara joined the Mama Dragons board in 2021. She graduated from BYU with a degree in Political Science and has spent over two decades sitting on and running non-profit boards, supporting her husband in his elected role, all while raising four amazing children. Sara founded and runs Shift Summit and founded and managed Alt Summit for nine years. She has a master's degree in Emergency Management from Jacksonville State University and currently volunteers as the Vice-Chair of the SLC Planning Commission and as Chair of the Board for the Women's Resource Center at the University of Utah.
KIRSTEN CAMPBELL (she/her)
Kirsten’s background is in education. She taught high school English and currently works in the
education department of the South Bend Civic Theatre. She is a self-described “professional
volunteer”—having served in many capacities including PTOs, foundation boards, social service
organizations, and women’s organizations.
Kirsten is the mother of two, one of whom identifies as bisexual. She is a loving ally for the
LGBTQ+ in her community and particularly her church congregation. Her goal is to make these
spaces safer and more loving toward LGBTQ+ youth.
BECKY FROST (she/her)
Becky joined the Mama Dragons Board of Directors in 2021. She is a seasoned media and communications strategist and a diversity and inclusion leader, bringing more than 15 years of experience to the role.
Becky is skilled at creating media-genic messaging that amplifies organizational narratives while educating multiple audiences. When it comes to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), she has worked in leadership roles within publicly traded organizations for the last dozen years, designing and facilitating the launch of employee resource groups, global inclusivity training programs, and facilitating DEI Council initiatives.
Believing in the power of education to open new opportunities and ways of thought, she earned an MBA from ASU when her children were seven and five (they called it “super school”). Becky holds two bachelor’s degrees from Brigham Young University in Communications and French. She grew up a fierce advocate for her LGBTQ+ sisters and believes in the power of communication to educate and create pathways to positive change.
KAREN BAGLEY (she/her)
Dr. Karen Bagley joined advising the Mama Dragons Board of Directors in 2020. She is an award-winning psychologist and maintains an interest in and focus on working with people of color and LGBTQ+ folks and understanding the role that their social and cultural identities play in their lives
Karen has 15 years of experience as a therapist and has worked in many settings, including a university, a VA Medical Center, and community-based mental health practices. In each environment, her goal has been to create an open space where she can work genuinely and collaboratively with clients on understanding and address their concerns. Her approach is integrative in nature, drawing on humanistic, cognitive-behavioral, and insight-oriented orientations as she helps clients develop approaches to more well-adjusted living and optimal performance.
She took a road slightly less traveled on her way to becoming a psychologist, one that included roles as a researcher, consultant, and educator. These experiences conducting program evaluations, public health and diversity-related research, and teaching undergraduate and graduate-level courses gave her opportunities to explore and understand ways that larger-scale systems and concerns can affect individual and group wellbeing. Karen has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from George Mason University, a Master of Public Health from Johns Hopkins University, and a BA in biology from the University of Pennsylvania.
ROBYN HENDERSON-ESPINOZA (they/them)
Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza joined the Mama Dragons Board of Directors in 2021. They are a leading activist and scholar, publishing work on philosophical theology and ethics while helping faith communities around the country use the theological scholarship in their activist justice movements.
Robyn's life’s work focuses on connecting the dots between theory & action, helping folks within the dominant culture & white-passing folks – who are ready to confront their socialization – to identify the ways they have been conscripted into supremacy culture by leaning into connection and relationship and by composting existing hierarchies into the kind of transformed culture we long to see emerge.
As a nonbinary, transgender Latinx, Robyn brings a variety of important perspectives to their work, particularly in foregrounding racial and LGBT justice in intersectional movements. As a public theologian in residence at Faith Matters Network, an organization working to highlight the voices of people of faith who have not historically been recognized, Robyn’s goal is to bring together their theological studies of social ethics, race theory, and queer theory in a way that is politically useful for all faith communities. Their work building bridges between faith communities, justice movements, and academia is the subject of their published book, Activist Theology: Recognizing the Prophetic Edge in the Streets.